[IT circle] IT women's troubles
Doing a woman is hard! It is harder to be an IT woman! ! ! ! ! This is a feeling expressed by a female netizen in the forum.
Is it hard to be a woman? To what extent? Is it really not a little happy? It’s not a personal experience. It’s hard to say that it’s ugly. The onlookers are itching and can’t touch the pain.
Zyeline is a woman born in a computer science class. She has been working for 6 years. She currently has a monthly salary of only 3,000. She also adheres to the front line of information management + system maintenance. For this confusion, she has the heart to do a survey in the forum, and I want to see what the sisters in the IT circle think about themselves, their current career, and their future development.
Many IT women stood up and spit out the truth, and finally revealed their status quo.
Computer + female ≠ happy
In the past ten years, colleges and universities and related professional enrollment have been full of years, and the IT industry has become a competition for these students. For several consecutive years, the IT industry's per capita salary has topped the list, which is enviable and fascinating. Therefore, in the eyes of the world, being in the IT industry means a happy life in life.
However, happy IT people are similar, and unfortunate IT people have their own misfortunes.
high pressure:
Liu Fengjian graduated from the Department of Mathematics of the Normal School. He was a computer thief boat halfway. The work was of course interesting to him, but he was very tired and his body could not be eaten. Once, she was tossing a computer, and her friend’s boyfriend saw it. The big hair sighed, how the girl did so tired and bothered.
Viviblur just did a hardware test at a company when she graduated. One person was facing a row of computers. After three weeks, her face turned green. At that time, she knew that technical life was not suitable for her. Later, she changed careers.
Light Blue has been tested for two years, and the work is very hard, because some companies have suddenly had a sense of crisis. She was very keen to determine her career direction, but found that the road under her feet had become narrow and unconsciously...
lonely:
It’s been a year since I went to work in a software company. The technical department only has one girl. I don’t think that I have to go to work after work.
Aquatic has been developing software for a long time. In the past three years, I have been coding. I wanted to go to sales in the past few days. I found that I couldn’t stand the low salary and interact with people. I had to spend a lot of time with the computer. I really don’t know how to integrate. Society is over. Think about it or come back, only continue to be a programmer.
confused:
When the glass of debris was on the university, the only one in the class was the one who wrote the program. After graduating in 2001, she wrote a three-year program. For the future, she lost her mind for a long time. She has just changed jobs, or at a computer company, she has not written a program for a while, and the direction of development is still unclear.
Yu Mei is doing MCU development. He has no understanding of this line. He is always incapable of working in the company. Others have no special skills. The mood is very low. The people who are in the blink of an eye are 30. The future is so confused. I really don’t know what to do. do.
Low salary:
Gl1335102 has been designed and developed for 2 years. Now I have changed a company. The workflow is a bit like India. The design is design, the development is development. She specializes in development and the salary is less than 1500. She wants to do it alone, and what kind of small business is better than this!
bored:
Wsyty graduated in 2002, working in a software center of a company, developed and tested, is not her real interest.
Helanazy was almost pulled to do the test, and later struggling to escape, jumping to the current company, doing database development, seems to be quite boring.
Jumpingapple is a network engineer in the data center of the State-owned Bank of China. I really don't think there is any future. It is impossible to promote the qualifications. If the qualifications are deep, it is estimated that the energy will not keep up.
The Ming Dynasty Ming and Qing dynasty is a computer major. After graduating, working in the network center of a public institution, it is actually a chores that do a lot of typing and copying all day long. The profession is almost forgotten. She is more depressed.
fear:
Mingyue breeze programming for more than 3 years, finally found that the current boss is the master of the workforce of the staff! One day and night, I thought about ways to let employees work overtime to help them create benefits. She often worked until 10 pm to go home, and working overtime on weekends became commonplace. Moreover, she heard that women have been exposed to computers for a long time and are prone to miscarriage. Her previous MM pregnancy in the company was like this. She has not wanted to do this.
Does the IT industry let women go?
Is the IT industry really a world of men who let women go?
In theory, no, but in the real world, there are always factors that allow women to walk away.
From the perspective of women's own conditions, nature is accustomed to self-pity.
For example, Bingxue believes that girls will habitually think that they are worse than boys. In fact, girls do not need to swear by themselves. What technology is not suitable for you is an excuse for yourself to find yourself, everyone wants to do a job with high salary and salary, boys think. Boys will feel tired when they are doing technology, but boys will think that they are boys. If they can't do anything, they will continue to study it. Girls will say that this is a technical job, not suitable for girls, so they want to be lazy.
In the eyes of ice and snow, it is not that it is not suitable, but it is only that you are willing to delve into it. She is also a girl. She graduated into the bank in 2001. Later she jumped out for some reason, developed with VC and VB, and now writes programs in C++. She doesn't feel that she is worse than any boy. She even thinks that some boys are not as sensitive as her, and sometimes they have lazy ideas, but she admire those men who have worked hard to prove that they are no more than any. Boys are poor.
In the IT industry, there are many women who are self-reliant like ice and snow. However, on the whole, you cannot but admit that in the fierce competition, women's physical and psychological qualities are generally weaker than men.
Zyeline does not think that girls are worse than boys, and she has always been very self-reliant, but she believes that from the perspective of the computer industry as a whole, the development space for girls is relatively small, which is caused by certain objective environments.
From the external objective environment, it is common for the boss to look at each other.
Thornbirdfly has moved from the construction industry to the IT industry. It has been a programmer for two years. Originally, the construction industry is a male world. Who knows that IT industry women do not have much advantage. The boss is more willing to upgrade male staff and less female opportunities.
It is a fact that the IT industry is a 98% male community. Therefore, the fragment glass bluntly said: In fact, the follow-up development of its practitioners is a problem that plagues all programmers, regardless of women or men, but women may experience more troubles, such as age, whether they are married, This is some of the problems that I encountered very seriously during the interviews I had in the previous period.
When Tmy talked about IT girls, there was always a feeling of chilling. When she was a professional, her friends reminded her that in the engineering world, girls are more disadvantaged and face many inherent prejudices. They also have their own insufficient. For her own shortcomings, she already has a deep understanding of it. When she has to pay a big deal at the end of the period, she has to fight hard. Sometimes the body is really not working, not obeying.
Choosing IT is not a woman’s fault
Choosing IT is not a woman's fault. The IT industry has a wide range of coverage, and there are many jobs that are suitable for women. If you have to be stuck in a position that you are not competent or like, you will undoubtedly be unable to go with yourself, not to mention girls, boys, but also a great pain.
For example, programming, foreign programmers can be forty or fifty years old, and a person in a software company usually does decades and does not change. For girls, once they get married and have children, it’s hard to imagine them in programming for decades. Besides, how many companies can let you work for more than 10 years in programming in Chinese software companies? Many companies have survived this year and still don't know if they can survive next year. After a few years of programming, the ability to innovate and learn has fallen dramatically, and most of them have started to eat. The female programmer is 30 years old, she is eaten up, she has to be eliminated, there is a family with children, re-employment, facing the hard index under the age of 35, how many advantages can be said?
From this point of view, women choose IT, the general direction is right, but the door can not make mistakes, that is, to develop strengths and avoid weaknesses, and do what they can.
Yiyang Chuchu has been in the IT industry for six years, and has been engaged in training, software development, multimedia design, maintenance, and computer teaching. The partner who had worked together was almost all male. When she opened the small meeting, she looked up and she was a woman, but she did not feel that she was a supporting role among the group. It was still a very important protagonist. Women are more meticulous than men, and they are more thoughtful. This is the advantage of women.
Separately believe that IT is not limited to design, there are pre-sales and after-sales options. Women's gentleness and patience can make up for men's shortcomings in this area, so many companies want to find girls to do this business. Xiaofei suggested that the female friends who do it gradually turn to pre-sales consultation, implementation consultants, project management direction, play the invincible three-inch tongue of mm, killing people without blood. Grapefruit honey tea believes that women's sales are good, customers are generally not very difficult to marry women, see the girl is poor, ask him to do something to help what is busy, generally can not afford to heart.
There is a woman who sells in cisco. It is the only girl in the team. It is also the top sales of the whole team. Generally, there are any good errands. The boys will not rob her. The boys say that the girls are weak and so Hard work, have the ability to not bully other girls, so I am especially helpful to her.
In fact, bitterness and happiness are relative, and gains and losses are also relative. Women’s hard work of IT is largely a psychological feeling.
It is said that girls are very hard to do technology, but Wwwgui believes that it is good to engage in technology. At least, the work is relatively stable. It is not running outside like a market or service staff. The little fish that swims around is even more convinced that there is nothing wrong with women doing this, mainly because they think about it; if they choose, they can't give up. As long as they work hard, the harvest will still be there.
No matter which line you are doing, it is impossible to rush to seek success. No matter whether you are a boy or a girl, you don’t have to work hard.
The faint smoke circle directly said: How many of you have been doing this for a few months, thinking about changing careers in a year or two? Get a good understanding of what this line is doing, and let's comment. I didn't think this line was bad, the software was not only coding, IT was not programming, I did 1 year of technical support, 2 years of coding, 2 years of system analysis and design, 3 years of management, 2 years of IT consulting, all the way Come, I feel very good. Let's do something in a down-to-earth manner, and be qualified to say something else.
As for the salary, it is also because people are different from place to place. Different places and companies have different employment prospects and salaries. It cannot be generalized.
For example, ice and snow in C++ development in Shenzhen, salary 5000, obviously not much in the local. The frozen denim skirt is a web site development engineer in Chengdu, with a salary of 2,300, which is quite equivalent to Shanghai's 5000. It is already very good.
One woman is an implementation consultant in a company specializing in ERP in the automotive industry, more than 10,000 a month, which is the advantage of the company and the position.
Lilien works in Shanghai, mainly in the system integration industry. I used to do the installation and commissioning in the company, and the pre-sales and after-sales training was done. I often traveled around and had a monthly salary of around 10,000. Resigned last year, pre-sales and after-sales training, basically 1,500 yuan per month after tax.
There is even more powerful, in the wind to do IT sales, last year's annual salary of 100,000, this year should have 15-18 million. Everyone who knows how to sell knows that today is better than tomorrow. She is already 30 years old. She only wants to earn more money and does not want to face the unknowable future.
Looking at domestic and foreign countries, the outstanding women in the IT industry are inexhaustible, and they all seem to have one thing in common. They are generally very hard-working. Although it’s not a happy errand, it’s even hard work, but women have to live a happy life. Since they choose IT, they have to pay a lot. I hope that IT women will continue to take every step, learn to summarize, and set goals! I believe that the netizens are angry and I said: The line of doing IT is not starving!
Is it hard to be a woman? To what extent? Is it really not a little happy? It’s not a personal experience. It’s hard to say that it’s ugly. The onlookers are itching and can’t touch the pain.
Zyeline is a woman born in a computer science class. She has been working for 6 years. She currently has a monthly salary of only 3,000. She also adheres to the front line of information management + system maintenance. For this confusion, she has the heart to do a survey in the forum, and I want to see what the sisters in the IT circle think about themselves, their current career, and their future development.
Many IT women stood up and spit out the truth, and finally revealed their status quo.
Computer + female ≠ happy
In the past ten years, colleges and universities and related professional enrollment have been full of years, and the IT industry has become a competition for these students. For several consecutive years, the IT industry's per capita salary has topped the list, which is enviable and fascinating. Therefore, in the eyes of the world, being in the IT industry means a happy life in life.
However, happy IT people are similar, and unfortunate IT people have their own misfortunes.
high pressure:
Liu Fengjian graduated from the Department of Mathematics of the Normal School. He was a computer thief boat halfway. The work was of course interesting to him, but he was very tired and his body could not be eaten. Once, she was tossing a computer, and her friend’s boyfriend saw it. The big hair sighed, how the girl did so tired and bothered.
Viviblur just did a hardware test at a company when she graduated. One person was facing a row of computers. After three weeks, her face turned green. At that time, she knew that technical life was not suitable for her. Later, she changed careers.
Light Blue has been tested for two years, and the work is very hard, because some companies have suddenly had a sense of crisis. She was very keen to determine her career direction, but found that the road under her feet had become narrow and unconsciously...
lonely:
It’s been a year since I went to work in a software company. The technical department only has one girl. I don’t think that I have to go to work after work.
Aquatic has been developing software for a long time. In the past three years, I have been coding. I wanted to go to sales in the past few days. I found that I couldn’t stand the low salary and interact with people. I had to spend a lot of time with the computer. I really don’t know how to integrate. Society is over. Think about it or come back, only continue to be a programmer.
confused:
When the glass of debris was on the university, the only one in the class was the one who wrote the program. After graduating in 2001, she wrote a three-year program. For the future, she lost her mind for a long time. She has just changed jobs, or at a computer company, she has not written a program for a while, and the direction of development is still unclear.
Yu Mei is doing MCU development. He has no understanding of this line. He is always incapable of working in the company. Others have no special skills. The mood is very low. The people who are in the blink of an eye are 30. The future is so confused. I really don’t know what to do. do.
Low salary:
Gl1335102 has been designed and developed for 2 years. Now I have changed a company. The workflow is a bit like India. The design is design, the development is development. She specializes in development and the salary is less than 1500. She wants to do it alone, and what kind of small business is better than this!
bored:
Wsyty graduated in 2002, working in a software center of a company, developed and tested, is not her real interest.
Helanazy was almost pulled to do the test, and later struggling to escape, jumping to the current company, doing database development, seems to be quite boring.
Jumpingapple is a network engineer in the data center of the State-owned Bank of China. I really don't think there is any future. It is impossible to promote the qualifications. If the qualifications are deep, it is estimated that the energy will not keep up.
The Ming Dynasty Ming and Qing dynasty is a computer major. After graduating, working in the network center of a public institution, it is actually a chores that do a lot of typing and copying all day long. The profession is almost forgotten. She is more depressed.
fear:
Mingyue breeze programming for more than 3 years, finally found that the current boss is the master of the workforce of the staff! One day and night, I thought about ways to let employees work overtime to help them create benefits. She often worked until 10 pm to go home, and working overtime on weekends became commonplace. Moreover, she heard that women have been exposed to computers for a long time and are prone to miscarriage. Her previous MM pregnancy in the company was like this. She has not wanted to do this.
Does the IT industry let women go?
Is the IT industry really a world of men who let women go?
In theory, no, but in the real world, there are always factors that allow women to walk away.
From the perspective of women's own conditions, nature is accustomed to self-pity.
For example, Bingxue believes that girls will habitually think that they are worse than boys. In fact, girls do not need to swear by themselves. What technology is not suitable for you is an excuse for yourself to find yourself, everyone wants to do a job with high salary and salary, boys think. Boys will feel tired when they are doing technology, but boys will think that they are boys. If they can't do anything, they will continue to study it. Girls will say that this is a technical job, not suitable for girls, so they want to be lazy.
In the eyes of ice and snow, it is not that it is not suitable, but it is only that you are willing to delve into it. She is also a girl. She graduated into the bank in 2001. Later she jumped out for some reason, developed with VC and VB, and now writes programs in C++. She doesn't feel that she is worse than any boy. She even thinks that some boys are not as sensitive as her, and sometimes they have lazy ideas, but she admire those men who have worked hard to prove that they are no more than any. Boys are poor.
In the IT industry, there are many women who are self-reliant like ice and snow. However, on the whole, you cannot but admit that in the fierce competition, women's physical and psychological qualities are generally weaker than men.
Zyeline does not think that girls are worse than boys, and she has always been very self-reliant, but she believes that from the perspective of the computer industry as a whole, the development space for girls is relatively small, which is caused by certain objective environments.
From the external objective environment, it is common for the boss to look at each other.
Thornbirdfly has moved from the construction industry to the IT industry. It has been a programmer for two years. Originally, the construction industry is a male world. Who knows that IT industry women do not have much advantage. The boss is more willing to upgrade male staff and less female opportunities.
It is a fact that the IT industry is a 98% male community. Therefore, the fragment glass bluntly said: In fact, the follow-up development of its practitioners is a problem that plagues all programmers, regardless of women or men, but women may experience more troubles, such as age, whether they are married, This is some of the problems that I encountered very seriously during the interviews I had in the previous period.
When Tmy talked about IT girls, there was always a feeling of chilling. When she was a professional, her friends reminded her that in the engineering world, girls are more disadvantaged and face many inherent prejudices. They also have their own insufficient. For her own shortcomings, she already has a deep understanding of it. When she has to pay a big deal at the end of the period, she has to fight hard. Sometimes the body is really not working, not obeying.
Choosing IT is not a woman’s fault
Choosing IT is not a woman's fault. The IT industry has a wide range of coverage, and there are many jobs that are suitable for women. If you have to be stuck in a position that you are not competent or like, you will undoubtedly be unable to go with yourself, not to mention girls, boys, but also a great pain.
For example, programming, foreign programmers can be forty or fifty years old, and a person in a software company usually does decades and does not change. For girls, once they get married and have children, it’s hard to imagine them in programming for decades. Besides, how many companies can let you work for more than 10 years in programming in Chinese software companies? Many companies have survived this year and still don't know if they can survive next year. After a few years of programming, the ability to innovate and learn has fallen dramatically, and most of them have started to eat. The female programmer is 30 years old, she is eaten up, she has to be eliminated, there is a family with children, re-employment, facing the hard index under the age of 35, how many advantages can be said?
From this point of view, women choose IT, the general direction is right, but the door can not make mistakes, that is, to develop strengths and avoid weaknesses, and do what they can.
Yiyang Chuchu has been in the IT industry for six years, and has been engaged in training, software development, multimedia design, maintenance, and computer teaching. The partner who had worked together was almost all male. When she opened the small meeting, she looked up and she was a woman, but she did not feel that she was a supporting role among the group. It was still a very important protagonist. Women are more meticulous than men, and they are more thoughtful. This is the advantage of women.
Separately believe that IT is not limited to design, there are pre-sales and after-sales options. Women's gentleness and patience can make up for men's shortcomings in this area, so many companies want to find girls to do this business. Xiaofei suggested that the female friends who do it gradually turn to pre-sales consultation, implementation consultants, project management direction, play the invincible three-inch tongue of mm, killing people without blood. Grapefruit honey tea believes that women's sales are good, customers are generally not very difficult to marry women, see the girl is poor, ask him to do something to help what is busy, generally can not afford to heart.
There is a woman who sells in cisco. It is the only girl in the team. It is also the top sales of the whole team. Generally, there are any good errands. The boys will not rob her. The boys say that the girls are weak and so Hard work, have the ability to not bully other girls, so I am especially helpful to her.
In fact, bitterness and happiness are relative, and gains and losses are also relative. Women’s hard work of IT is largely a psychological feeling.
It is said that girls are very hard to do technology, but Wwwgui believes that it is good to engage in technology. At least, the work is relatively stable. It is not running outside like a market or service staff. The little fish that swims around is even more convinced that there is nothing wrong with women doing this, mainly because they think about it; if they choose, they can't give up. As long as they work hard, the harvest will still be there.
No matter which line you are doing, it is impossible to rush to seek success. No matter whether you are a boy or a girl, you don’t have to work hard.
The faint smoke circle directly said: How many of you have been doing this for a few months, thinking about changing careers in a year or two? Get a good understanding of what this line is doing, and let's comment. I didn't think this line was bad, the software was not only coding, IT was not programming, I did 1 year of technical support, 2 years of coding, 2 years of system analysis and design, 3 years of management, 2 years of IT consulting, all the way Come, I feel very good. Let's do something in a down-to-earth manner, and be qualified to say something else.
As for the salary, it is also because people are different from place to place. Different places and companies have different employment prospects and salaries. It cannot be generalized.
For example, ice and snow in C++ development in Shenzhen, salary 5000, obviously not much in the local. The frozen denim skirt is a web site development engineer in Chengdu, with a salary of 2,300, which is quite equivalent to Shanghai's 5000. It is already very good.
One woman is an implementation consultant in a company specializing in ERP in the automotive industry, more than 10,000 a month, which is the advantage of the company and the position.
Lilien works in Shanghai, mainly in the system integration industry. I used to do the installation and commissioning in the company, and the pre-sales and after-sales training was done. I often traveled around and had a monthly salary of around 10,000. Resigned last year, pre-sales and after-sales training, basically 1,500 yuan per month after tax.
There is even more powerful, in the wind to do IT sales, last year's annual salary of 100,000, this year should have 15-18 million. Everyone who knows how to sell knows that today is better than tomorrow. She is already 30 years old. She only wants to earn more money and does not want to face the unknowable future.
Looking at domestic and foreign countries, the outstanding women in the IT industry are inexhaustible, and they all seem to have one thing in common. They are generally very hard-working. Although it’s not a happy errand, it’s even hard work, but women have to live a happy life. Since they choose IT, they have to pay a lot. I hope that IT women will continue to take every step, learn to summarize, and set goals! I believe that the netizens are angry and I said: The line of doing IT is not starving!
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